I've only been using TLC for a couple of weeks. I came up with some nice things within only a few minutes. I then proceeded to make a some avatars for a couple of my online clan members. Now they all want one. And our site admins are asking for new logos too. "Cool" you say TLC has turned you into the life of the party. Phooie there are 865 members and new ones joining everyday. I'll never be done. Thanks for a great product my clan appreciates it. Gravy One of these days I'll get around to making myself a new avatar. BTW here is a sample of a couple I have done.