Discussion in 'Logo Designs' started by NewEmpire, Jan 25, 2008.
I have made a new logo...
I need some comments guys....
Your new logo looks good,but need some optimizing though. See attached logo!
Thank you Inzalo, for your comment.
I love it NE, is that in PS?
Not sure what "optimized" is.
Optimizing is a term used to indicate a change to a photo or a graphic such as clip art, to reduce it in both visual size and file size, for use in other programs. Presentations made with programs such as PowerPoint are often filled with photos. These types of presentations can often monopolize the resources of the computer due to the size and number of graphics used. As a result, the program can become sluggish and even crash if the photos are left too large before inserting them into the presentation.
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OMG! Did that come out of a dictionary for "optimization". I'm checking...
Ah ha! Thank you for the info. I think I will do some more reading on that!
Inzalo is right. Just grabbing a corner of your image and pulling it down in size doesn't make it "web friendly.". You have to "optimize" it or "resize*" it for the web. First, make a duplicate of your image and resize the dupe. Never work from originals. Printing images in 150 dpi, 300 dpi or 600 dpi is probably o.k. for the press, but for the web, 72 dpi is fine. Say you take a digital image from your camera and store it on your computer as a jpeg, if it's an 8 megapixel image or a 10 megapixel image it will be HUGE!!! In fact, it will probably occupy your entire screen. If you drag the corner to resize, you're not really resizing because you still will be retaining all those pixels. And, remember that they have to load into a browser; the more pixels, the longer the load. So, ideally, you have to get that image down to a workable size to plug it into your layout. Optimizing the photo or image down to a workable pixel size (I suggest around 300 pixels wide) and you can play around with the image until you get the size that suits you. You might also try any of the free optimizer programs on the internet or, if you have Photoshop or Corel Paint Shop Pro (very inexpensive) optimizers are part of those programs. Once you toy around with optimizing, you'll discover that the learning curve is not very steep, and your web sites will load faster and your clients will be a lot happier.
*I think the pull down menu in Photoshop calls in "resizing" but I could be wrong.
IrfanView can resize with no problem. A free app too :)
Yes Photoshop has optimizing plugin built-in. It used to be handled by accompanying ImageReady w/ PS. You used to "Save Optimized As.." up to CS2...now it's changed in CS3 and now called "Save For Web & Devices..." in the File Menu. There you will find all the optimizing compression of all formats that you will ever need, upto 4 different levels to choose from and then fine adjust it more from there.
I agree with some things mentioned above that it takes a little more to "optimize" your file sizes & resolutions than just what was done with the image. Secondly, I don't believe the image we're talking about really needed any "optimizing" any more w/o the quality suffering on top of everything else. It was very small in size wasn't it? in the kb's? Hardly in need to be optimized.
One must not forget to balance the size vs. quality of the file when "optimizing" it. The quality does deteriate the more you decrease the file size when optimizing. Another great feature to preview your opimization in PS with the 4 viewport choices and on-the-fly preview of your adjustments of varying low, med, high, very high, max levels and everything in between. I don't mess w/ any other apps for this.
I'm, unfortunately, still using an old version of Photoshop to optimize my images. The new CS3 is very expensive. Maybe you could recommend a good optimizer to the members new to design that doesn't cost the proverbial "arm and leg." I just hope we haven't confused a lot of people, but these are things we need to know to get better at what we do. I agree with you that the logo in this thread didn't need to be optimized as it was already pretty small. Of course, the other problem would be if the designer decided to enlarge it; then it would become pixilated.
I am using this program it's called Interactive JPEG Optimizer and it's a free app!:image28:
Interactive JPEG Optimizer lets you trim the fat from your image files, and compare them side-by-side. In many cases reducing filesize with barely noticable ... Read more and download and my clients are more than happy:image16-1:
my two kids have just purchased for me the cs3 master collection,its like starting all over again but i love it theres so many things you can do !!!!!!!!
i own that too :) While not as graphicaly talented as you, it is a blast... everything integrates into each program...Adobe has posted a very nice learning center for all cs3 products... it's video!
I didn't mean anything bad about older versions of Photoshop CS at all, or any PS. I think it's great you have it and keep using it by all means.
I also agree sometimes people need to "resize" thier images' "pixel dimensions" & "document size" properly, and that sometimes means "enlarging" it too.
That's why they can goto Image>Image Size>Make image adjustments ; height, width, resolution, constrain proportions ±, and Resample Images:
1) Bicubic (best for smooth gradients)
2) Bicubic Sharper (best for reduction)
3) Bicubic Smoother (best for enlargement)
4) 2 others
I personally get my money's worth out of #2 reducing all my images :)
However there is only so much you can do when "enlarging" without overpixelating it. This is why one should always begin with a decently "higher res" image to be start with for better results. I recommend starting at 300 dpi (press quality) for all images to start and go down (resize or optimize) from there. You can't add pixels that aren't there! Therefore you will always get heavy pixelation if you try an enlarge it too much, your just stretching the one's you have, haha. I would only recommend enlarging an image at a very small increment, if you absolutely had to.
There is a difference between resizing and optimizing.
I hope that clears a few things up.
Olden, have you investigated Inkscape?
Is the cs3 the Corel program or Photoshop?
I got Corel cs3 for Christmas and I am overwhelmed with the program.
I am starting to do the Linda tutorials program that came with it but it is a blast. How different are the two programs?
All I ever here is PS,PS,PS.....I feel like I bought the wrong program! (sweat, shake) I hope not! lol:image27::image24:
I believe you may be thinking of CorelDraw X3 (another great app). CS3 is just short for Adobe's (Creative Suite), which was developed after version 7, they just started w/ CS (v8), CS2(v9), now CS3(v10). That's all.
And sorry that you think that you bought the wrong program, but Photoshop has been a Photographer's/Graphic Artist's best friend for many years, and will always be, along with Illustrator, and other wonderfully similar programs that Corel is now putting out too.
Sorry to disappoint everybody here, so you may want to cover your ears for a moment...but all other apps are just trying to imitate as best they can, and will never be industry standard use such as Adobe. (never say never right?), haha.
Well, how different are the two (in your honest opinion) SC3 and x3.
I didnt payFULL full retail ($499) I got it for $85 new on Ebay.
CorelDraw has been around for a while now, and the X3 package now has 2 other apps wrapped up with it...Corel's PHOTO-PAINT & Corel's Capture as you know. Honestly I haven't been able to get deeply involved with it, but it looks like it has a lotta great features and tools, many similar to Illustartor, like it's own version of PowerTrace and such things. There are some built in tutorials with it that I would recommend looking into them if you wanted to really benefit from the full potential of X3. It's a great app and I believe you got it at a steal - well done!
I personally have been experimenting more with CorelPainterX myself. I think it's "too cool for school", haha.
After watching some tutorial videos of such special effects/concept artists like Ryan Church...I was completely hooked on Painter's potentials and want to learn how to create artwork like his & others (maybe halfway as good if I'm lucky). Since I have the required wacom drawing tablet, I may have a chance with a lot of practice.
For some inspiration, look him up and you'll see what I mean. There are more great artist's websites you will see in Painter's opening Welcome screen too -totally awesome stuff! Maybe I should go look em up and post em all for inspiration :)
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